Accio Cedric! ([info]cinema_eyes) wrote in [info]london_hurts,
2005-07-08 06:11:00
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COMMUNITY UPDATE

For those who think this community is stupid. Feel free to ignore it the community and keep having fun with Livejournal, but for those who just want a simple place to say, there thoughts please do so. I understand most people who live in London say it has not shaken them as much as the media is saying. Fair enough. But also realize everyone is going to have different feelings toward it. Some may have been shaken up, from being close to the areas where people were injured, or some may have been at work not near affected areas, etc.

THIS COMMUNITY IS NOT A "HUG LONDON" thing, it is more of thoughts to those who lost someone or were injured. Most realize it is not something to be overtly patriotic or something. Feel free to joke or comment anyway you like I understand it is pretty hilarious how people around the world are thinking 'oh my gosh, I must fly to London right this minute to say, go London people!'. What' the point of that right?

So in saying that, I think the community graphic is wrong and must be replaced.

Just please do not say that this community is crap many times, fine feel free to say your opinion but it does not mean you have to rant about it in more than 5 posts.This is not what the community is intended for, so I may delete or edit some posts.

This community will most likely be a temporary one just for people to say some thoughts. I am sorry if the community offends or what not, but that was not my intention.

Best Wishes,
Catherine

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[info]goodweekend

July 9 2005, 01:32:31 UTC 6 years ago

But humour is the British way of healing....

[info]my_red_dream

July 9 2005, 01:34:00 UTC 6 years ago

Shush. You weren't here. We are. Let us deal with it. It was nice of you to think of us. But really, don't make excuses for our behaviour. It has shaken us but this is how we are dealing with it.

Anonymous

July 9 2005, 01:46:18 UTC 6 years ago

i told people i didnt care and i got ripped apart by europeans on my LJ. i'm not posting my LJ name on here because i dont want to get them all riled up again.

i thought british people were funny? they werent even funny to argue with... :\

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[info]stroppy_prof

July 9 2005, 02:03:18 UTC 6 years ago

You seem to be missing the point of a lot of the posts. Not everyone is saying the community is 'crap'. Brits have a long history of reacting to attacks and atrocities with stoicism and dark humour. This is just the equivalent of people during WWII grinning for the camera, thumbs up. It tells those who attack us 'You haven't hurt us. This is business as usual.'

Most of the recent posts look like mockery of the (no doubt heartfelt, but slightly grating) banners with images of crying children, and clips from the news footage and suchlike. It's rather like losing a member of your family and being sent a Hallmark card with a sad-looking kitten on the front and one of those soundy things playing a funereal dirge.

If you wanted the site to be a book of condolences, I'm sorry that's not how it's turning out. But London doesn't want to be _hurt. London is outraged and concerned. And still, thankfully, able to make jokes.

[info]cinema_eyes

July 9 2005, 02:16:05 UTC 6 years ago

Did you read what I wrote? I LOVE the humor, I even comment on the mockery of my stupid graphic lol. I just say sorry to those injured and to the families who know those who were killed.

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[info]kailorien

July 9 2005, 02:12:56 UTC 6 years ago

I agree with you catherine. I came here because I have been emotionally hurt by what happend in London. It brought up old memories of the Bali bombings, where I lost a very good friend. I just tried to express my grief through pictures and I was ripped apart for them.
I'm sorry this community isn't a 'condolence's' community, But I'm going to have to keep my grief and anger to myself now and not post it here because it appears the 'brittish humour' doesn't allow anyone else to grieve differently.

[info]fickledame

July 9 2005, 02:16:25 UTC 6 years ago

Excuse me, but not everyone attacked you...

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[info]amuchmoreexotic

July 9 2005, 06:18:41 UTC 6 years ago

Please leave the community as it is... It's cheered us all up.

[info]thewordsihate

July 9 2005, 06:53:41 UTC 6 years ago

This community, through the jokey posts, have cheered me up more than anything during this dark time. I know it wasn't your original intention but what this has blossomed into is brilliant.

So thanks.

[info]spyder

July 9 2005, 07:42:52 UTC 6 years ago

I think Mark Knopfler said it best when he sang

That ain't working that's the way you do it
Money for nothing and your chicks for free

no sorry, when he sang

Why worry, there should be laughter after pain
There should be sunshine after rain
These things have always been the same
So why worry now

[info]ciphergoth

July 9 2005, 07:49:33 UTC 6 years ago

Thanks for your kind thoughts, but in seriousness, you don't seem to have entirely woken up to how thoroughly you misjudged us..

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[info]stroppy_prof

July 9 2005, 09:29:17 UTC 6 years ago

And we still somehow find time to put all those 'extra U's' into our words.

You like Pratchett and collect knives and swords, too! Squee :D

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[info]gypseymission

July 9 2005, 09:48:03 UTC 6 years ago

Hi Catherine

You might have seen my post earlier. Personally I think its great that this community has become a place a for Londoners to demonstrate their spirit, and moved away from being a sappy list of tributes. If you are looking for a new name (please change the name), then London's spirit would seem to be about right to me. We are an odd bunch, and probably incomprehensible to anyone outside the M25, but its the way we are. If we folded up and sat around crying and licking our wounds then we would betray everything that London stands for, and most of us would get a clip round the ear from gandad and grandma and told to stop being a nonse. We've got more pride than that.

When you are blind drunk at the Elephant on a Friday night, and fall over, your mates will automatically start laughing, not lend a hand and its up to you to stand up no matter how hurt you are and start laughing with them. Thats the kind of people we are. We use humour (sometimes viscious humour) to get through things. Please don't take it personal.

[info]missjudas

July 9 2005, 09:52:14 UTC 6 years ago

Catherine - thanks for the very reasonable response. With 24 hour news continually reminding us of how awful it was for the people who were there, this community made me laugh for the first time since Thursday morning. It doesn't mean that I don't still think it's awful, and it doesn't stop me filling up when I see people on the news desperately seeking people who are still missing. But the fact is that we're not all Londoners today, yesterday, or the day before, and although I'm horrified that it has happened, I feel that we should follow London's example and just get on with things.

However, that doesn't mean that I will personally "attack" anyone who comes here to express their thoughts and feelings.

[info]dracko

July 9 2005, 15:35:40 UTC 6 years ago

e-tear :'(

[info]mejoff

July 11 2005, 09:32:21 UTC 6 years ago

twat

[info]patient_0

July 9 2005, 17:31:44 UTC 6 years ago

"For those who think this community is stupid. Feel free to ignore it the community and keep having fun with Livejournal, but for those who just want a simple place to say, there thoughts please do so."

Ok. Looking at the highlighted end of your sentence, my thought is that you should return to grammar school and learn the basics of the English language.

Bad Grammar: Never Forgive. Never Forget.

[info]fivelongdays

July 9 2005, 21:44:27 UTC 6 years ago

Here here.

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Anonymous

July 10 2005, 01:51:19 UTC 6 years ago

Grammar nazis reprazent. Bloody illiterant Yanks trying to hijack and circlejerk our trauma. I can tell you right now that no idiot redneck singing a song about '07/07' is ever going to get to number 1 ...

[info]cinema_eyes

July 11 2005, 06:06:36 UTC 6 years ago

Wow. Are you really that bored with livejournal you go around checking grammar, how sad.

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[info]chiller

July 10 2005, 17:16:52 UTC 6 years ago

But also realize everyone is going to have different feelings toward it. Some may have been shaken up, from being close to the areas where people were injured, or some may have been at work not near affected areas, etc.

I work between two of the stations that were bombed (Moorgate/Liverpool Street). We had people evacuated from both stations who came into work rolling their eyes and saying "*tut* Another bloody bomb. Still, they made us run out of the station so I'm a few minutes early..."

My point is that being silly IS how we deal with it. Ridiculing ourselves IS how we deal with it. It's a London thing. We don't tend to do public outpourings of grief and anger. It's what makes us Londoners. That stuff's done quietly. And while it's nice to have people around the world say "Gosh, that was awful, we feel for you" our own reaction as Londoners will always be one of self-mockery and stupid humour. It's what makes us Londoners. If you don't like that - if you disapprove of it - then who are you really sending your condolances to?

[info]shiv5468

July 10 2005, 21:09:36 UTC 6 years ago

A very good point.

Maxwell is a little tit isn't he? You'd think he'd stay away from the nose picking in case his brain came out on the end of his finger.

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Anonymous

July 12 2005, 14:31:42 UTC 6 years ago

I think you're confusing us with, well, Americans. We don't want to spend our time wallowing in misery and telling everyone who'll listen how terrible it all is. Oh, have you heard? We got bombed! Yes, I know, it's awful, isn't it? I think most of us had stopped caring about it* by Friday and just carried on as normal (except those people who pretended to be sad and spent the day in bed).

Yeah, the loss of life is terrible but, as it goes, it was a fairly unsuccessful bombing raid.

Today I'm a Londoner and for about 2 hours last Thursday I was worried about my friends and how I was going to get home.

Anonymous

July 12 2005, 18:58:32 UTC 6 years ago

I think you're confusing us with, well, Americans.

And I think you, and a lot of your fellow Britons, are painting we Americans with a broad brush.

Most of those who were clinging on to the grief and tragedy here in the states following 9/11 were overfed midwestern cows who would herd their spawn outside every night for *candlelight vigils* for months on end or shotgun-toting yahoos who were "jest a-itchin' to pick off some of them towelheads". They do not represent all of us here, but as the old saying goes, the squeakier wheel gets the grease.  These were the people the media focused on because they prolonged their story lines and kept their ratings up because other cows and yahoos were eagerly tuning in to get a lookey at themselves or their friends on TV.

Our president ([insert some diety here] help us) knew just how to keep on fueling that sentiment amongst those that were so far removed from the events, location wise.  Yet, in the same breath, they were telling those of us who were right in the line of fire to just "go on with your lives".

That's what we were trying to do.  But, just when we approached some miniscule amount of normal, just when it seemed to getting as close as we could back to pre-9/11 (or 11/9, whichever you prefer), photos of ground zero, planes slicing through towers, poor souls jumping from buildings, etc., would be paraded out like a fashion show in Milan.  Psuedo-patriots would tell us that we had some warped *duty* to make sure the world would never forget.  No thanks, the *patriotic, flag-waving, Mom and apple pie* yokels are taking care of that.  Let them make jackasses of themselves.  I have a job to commute to and a family to support.

What bullshit.  I'm glad Londoners came to this community and others like it and gave a hearty *sod off* to this patronizing piece of dreck.

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